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DeVos believes the key to improving public school districts is competition with private and charter schools, and so she supports redirecting taxpayer dollars away from districts for each child whose parents choose to pull them from the public system.

Lesley Stahl: No, but your argument that if you take funds away that the schools will get better, is not working in MI where you had a huge impact and influence over the direction of the school system here.

Secretary of Education Betsy Devos says "everything is on the table" for the administration's course of action to enhance school safety. Lesley Stahl asked Education Secretary Betsy DeVos in a 60 Minutes interview that is drawing lots of attention. What about those kids? "Stahl knocked the Education Secretary at every turn, bringing up her wealth and describing the journey 'from her sheltered life in MI to her life now as a lightning rod in Washington'". We're in Michigan. This is your home state.

When pushed by Stahl to answer if the numbers between false accusations and assaults were the same, however, DeVos said she didn't know.

Stahl suggested she should visit those schools to understand what they're doing.

Lesley Stahl: No, but your argument that if you take funds away that the schools will get better, is not working in MI where you had a huge impact and influence over the direction of the school system here. Although the schools themselves are doing worse, there may be "pockets" of students doing better, she said. At one point, she admitted she hasn't "intentionally" visited underperforming schools. There is no doubt about it.

"But that really isn't true", Stahl argued, noting that test scores have gone up over the last 25 years. Maybe try to figure out what they're doing?

DeVos: Maybe I should, yes. Whether DeVos is capable of solving them is still to be determined - and her showing on 60 Minutes isn't exactly a vote of confidence.

When pressed by Stahl about institutional racism and for more specifics on why she thinks the rule needs to be rolled back, DeVos twice repeated the "opportunity to learn" line. Sometimes it does. Again, I think, I think. The awkward, at-times rambling interview covered issues from gun violence to school choice and her proposed Title IX reforms regarding campus sexual assaults.

The interview also addressed the movement for gun control founded by student survivors of the Parkland, FL, shooting. "But I'm committed to a process that's fair for everyone involved", she stated.

"Well, one sexual assault is one too many, and one falsely accused individual is one too many", DeVos said initially.


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